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Other Gambling Games Discussion about other gambling games. Good luck! When they say a machine is Do they have to guarantee that each machine has to pay it out in a certain time frame or is this also figured in the life of the machine. And why would anyone want to play games other than these if these pay the most? How often do you hit a royal, of course you could I guess play a long time without hitting one but from what I read part of the Clearly the goal is to find the hot machines. I would like to get as much of the 2 nights at Palms comped as possible, yet I want to play the best machines too. If you goal is to get comped I agree that JoB 3 line is probably the best game, because it will reduce variance while letting you bet more coin. Hope this helps. Hopefully I can find these at 1 or 5 dollar machines in borgata. At most, it is a way to get a high roller treatment and come very close to break even. I assume you would need them to have a big progressive to play another game. Different vp games return different percentages. If you are serious about wanting to beat the casinos you should read Frank's book too. I will let everybody know how it works out. BB code is On. If the machine doesn't hit quickly do you move or just feed it more and wait for the upswing? All while going to the casino daily, which can be really fun for some people. Are there any good games there or do I have to fly to Vegas then take a cab to Pahrump or something? I am going to give the 3-line JoB the bulk of my play. Originally Posted by Fergie You do not understand how the machines work if you are asking if one is "hitting". Read and listen to all the info on this site before you put another penny in play. There is no such thing as a hot, cold or due machine. Mark Forums Read. Some people in the Las Vegas Lifestyle forums might be able to help you with specific questions about casinos and their comps. I was playing jack or better today. That is why I posted the question on here. 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